RED OCTOBER? More on upcoming Harvest Moon: JUPITER/NEPTUNE, and Forgiveness

Let’s look at that chart again (and see yesterday’s post).

This time I want to focus on a strong pattern that I did not mention yesterday, something way outside Saturn/Pluto in Capricorn’s purview, that may be utilized to soften the coming harshness: This is  the startling positioning of both Jupiter in Sagittarius at the Midheaven, and Neptune conjunct Lilith in Pisces on the Ascendant of the Harvest Moon chart during this Red October.

Notice that both planets are in the signs they rule, wherein they feel most at home, and so then act in stronger than usual ways. They have been more or less 90° from each other since way last January, 2019, and one might say that this upcoming Harvest Moon signifies the culmination of this stressful aspect that has linked them together, for good or ill, for it will be nearly ten months.

The theme, when we are considering the square between Jupiter and Neptune (made wilder by Lilith, which moves fast, and just “happens” to be conjunct both Neptune and Ascendant during this Harvest Moon), is that of Sagittarian TRUTH versus Piscean LOVE.

Truth or Love? Many questions.

Is one more valuable than the other? If not, is it possible to combine them creatively, or do we have to sacrifice one in order to honor the other?

More: How has each of us been working all year long with this tense square in our own lives, especially if we have planets in about the 16-21° range of the four mutable signs (Sagittarius, Pisces, Gemini and Virgo)?

Plus, of course: How does this aspect “work out” on the geopolitical stage?

First, note that geopolitically, usually aspects between longer-cycled planets work out in a decidedly unevolved manner. So have we here:

Jupiter in Sagittarius: identification with strong, righteous, intolerant, “politically correct,” polarized beliefs, ideologies, dogmas: e.g. Republican vs. Democrat, left vs. right, capitalism vs. socialism, Christianity vs. Islam, etc.

Neptune in Pisces: identification with substances, media, games, etc. that seductively or deceptively promote utopian or dystopian fantasies, plus the longing to escape from harsh reality: addiction. Opioids, alcohol, cigarettes, coffee, sugar, and so on.

Now put these two together in the same confined space: Strong, nasty, powerfully held beliefs express in harsh language, shouts, nasty name-calling, even violence — alternating with self-soothing via retreat into fantasy and addictions.

The above does seem to be an apt description of “where we are at” as a society right now. It actually hurts my heart to read through my twitter feed; so intolerant and self-righteous are so many; utterly judgmental of those they violently disagree with.

Okay, let’s step back and ask: how can we, as individuals, utilize the lessons of this powerful, now waning, Jupiter/Neptune square in a manner that does not lead to  identification. For it’s our identifications (and our “identities”) that cause the problem. We attach to an “identity” (and these days, it’s usually a group identity), when we forget — or have never learned — to continuously ask ourselves to WAKE UP! We need to learn to witness our own experience, to pay close attention to how we are internally reacting whenever, our hotheadedness tempts us to “act out.”

To value the internal witness is crucial; especially because we need to witness our own experience in order to even begin to grok the underlying dynamics of any interpersonal or collective drama. And here I want to introduce one word, a word which, during this past year has become well known: “projection.”

“Projection” has become especially obvious in politics: a larger and larger segment of society now notices how politicians are in the habit of accusing one another of the exact thing that they themselves are doing!

The word “projection” used to be a sort of esoteric term, utilized by psychiatrists. In fact, I can remember, way back in 1971, when one of my friends was in therapy (not so common then). She would throw that word “projection” around; and I had a great deal of trouble understanding what it meant. But then, once I did! Wow! Ever since then I’ve learned to pay attention to my own inner life as the unnoticed source of both my strong hates and strong loves. As I identify what I “love” or “hate” on the outside, I then learn to recognize and either value or uproot these same qualities within myself.

Now that word “projection” is in common parlance. Thank goodness! This means that we, as individuals, have a real chance to defuse hostile situations before they even arise. How? By simply noticing our own projections.  Which means: noticing when we are “triggered” (another new, and now common word) by others. Who strongly either repels me or attracts me?  Those I “hate” I want to banish, or to stomp on, or to change, or at least to decry, deride, make fun of. Those whom I love I tend to see as heroes and want to “follow” them, even “be in love” with them.

I think of DJT here: how his very presence polarizes people into either intensely strong hate or intensely strong love. We either despise him or we adore him. Projection at work!

So, our job is to shift into our inner awareness, a Neptunian function on its own, inside  the spacious presence of Neptune when it is operating spiritually: And once there, our job is to ask ourselves: who or what unnoticed or denied qualities inside myself does this hate or this love remind me of? In other words, how can I take back this projection, which has caused such hostility and uproar in my life?

Going further into the Neptunian function,  how can I begin to sense what it must be like to walk in the other person’s shoes, to empathize with him or her, rather than judge him or her?

I suggest that these kinds of questions, and this kind of Jupiter/Neptune meditation, is very valuable now, and will become even more valuable during the remainder of Red October and beyond. For as much as we who are “red-pilled” can’t wait to bring the perps to justice, what must it be like to walk in their still very human (and yes, sometimes red) shoes? What kind of justice (Jupiter in Sagittarius) is appropriate in a situation where whoever it was that offended the canons of justice, and even of morality (pedogate, satanic ritual sacrifice, etc.) was probably blackmailed a long time ago, and terrified of either exposure or of being killed if they ever told the truth. Not that their fear forgives them. But that it helps us understand.

Way back when , in the late ’70s, a friend of mine was busted for pedophilia. He had been napping one day, when a small child slipped into his room and fondled him. He allowed it. She told her mother. It turns out she had witnessed her mother’s sexual activity for years. My friend ended up in prison for two years. He told me later that it was the most important crisis of his life, and taught him his limits.

But before he went in, before he came to trial, all of us in our friends’ group were reeling with fury and dismay. How could he have done that? Judgments abounded, on all sides, including from myself. Until the day I realized. My friend is human. And with anything human, if he can do it, I am also capable of doing it. This recognition broke the spell of vituperation among all of us. We began to work in a more Neptunian manner, to heal the breach within ourselves.

Fred Burks, of, sent out an email a few days ago that also speaks to this situation.

“As Peter was escorted back to his solitary prison cell, he could hardly believe that he no longer felt like a zombie. He actually felt human for the first time in his life.”

Dear friends,

From Psychopath to Healer

One beautiful morning this August at a personal growth seminar I was attending, I fell into conversation with a wonderful woman I’ll call Sheila (she asked me not to share any real names) after a profound breathwork session she led. Seeing my interest in talking about things that really mattered, she asked if I might be interested in hearing a disturbing, yet remarkable story of transformation. I was a big yes to this intriguing offer.

She then proceeded to tell me about an incredible event — or maybe better described as a miracle — that touched me to the core.

Sheila told me that a man we’ll call Peter is in a maximum security prison for life. A true psychopath, Peter murdered 27 people before he was caught. You may not know that mass murderers get a therapist while in prison. This story was related to Sheila by a man we’ll call David, who was the therapist for Peter and other mass murderers in this prison. David and Sheila are good friends. He related this highly unusual occurrence in confidence to Sheila.

David first explained to Sheila that mass murderers like Peter are kept in solitude in their own cells. They are not allowed to be in contact with other inmates, as many of them would have no hesitation in attacking and killing other prisoners even for petty reasons. Psychopaths are known for not experiencing any real emotions, though they can be quite good at faking them. David informed Sheila that this man we’re calling Peter had been living a solitary life in prison for years when, at one of his therapy sessions, David made him an unusual offer.

The mother of a young woman Peter had killed had contacted the prison to say she wanted to meet the man who murdered her daughter. Though he was sure Peter would not be interested, David felt obligated to relate this to Peter, and so asked if he might be interested in meeting her.

To his great surprise, Peter said he would. Apparently his eternally boring existence in solitary confinement made him interested in this as a break in his monotonous routine. As Peter experienced practically no emotions, facing an angry mother was at least more interesting than staring at prison walls all day long.

So David arranged for the mother, who we’ll call Julia, to meet with Peter in a small room in the prison designed specially for visits like this with thick, bullet-proof glass windows protecting Julia from this cold-blooded murderer.

At his first therapy session after Peter came back from the meeting, David was in utter amazement to find Peter, who he had counseled for years, a changed man. He was showing genuine emotion and his entire demeanor had changed for the first time since David had known him. Astounded, David asked what had happened.

Peter related to David how on the arranged date, he was escorted into the small room where Julia was waiting. Julia looked him straight in the eyes and began angrily spilling her guts, telling Peter how he had robbed her of the precious life of her only child. She raged on about the many ways she had suffered since her daughter’s murder. A day didn’t pass when she felt a deep sadness at this tragic loss.

None of this bothered Peter in the least. He had confided to David in previous sessions how as a result of the severe, repeated physical and sexual abuse he went through as a child, he had learned early how to completely shut off all emotion. By the time he was a teenager, he felt like a zombie moving through all the motions of life without feeling anything.

He had also confided that the first time he killed a person, Peter was surprised and thrilled to actually feel the excitement of an adrenaline rush he had never experienced before. This feeling was so intoxicating that he soon decided to kill again just to get that amazing high he felt after killing. Soon, addicted to this new high, he killed again and again until he was finally caught and thrown in prison on death row. His only regret had been that now in prison, he could no longer feed his addiction to get that high by murdering people.

So when this woman poured her anger out to him, Peter was not in the least disturbed, though he was content to at least see something other than the drab walls of his prison cell.

“So what happened with Julia to change this?” David asked.

After exhausting all of her anger at him in that little room, Peter continued, Julia slumped back and sat quiet for a couple moments. She then took a deep breath, sat up straight, and looked him deep in the eyes. With tears welling up in her eyes, she said with a soft and even caring tone, “And Peter, I want you to know that I forgive you.”

In the pregnant silence after these totally unexpected words, Peter was shocked. As these words reverberated throughout his being, he was amazed to feel something stirring inside. A mixture of joy and sadness welled up within him for this first time in his entire adult life. As these emotions swirled through his body, something in him opened. He lips trembled and he found his eyes tearing up for the first time ever. Something deep inside of him was touched and moved to the core.

As Peter was escorted back to his solitary prison cell, he could hardly believe that he no longer felt like a zombie. He actually felt human for the first time in his life. Julia’s heartfelt expression of forgiveness had created a miracle.

The story does not end there. Peter had been so moved that after relating what happened with Julia, he leaned forward and whispered to David that he had been thinking long and hard, and he had an important request. He knew that the parents and families of other mass murderers in his prison occasionally requested to meet with the murderer of their loved one. The killers almost always denied the request, not interested in facing the anger and hatred which would come their way.

Peter told David that from then on he wanted to stand in for any of the murderers in his prison to meet with these relatives. He wanted to hear and experience their anger. And he wanted to apologize for what they had done, and for what he had done.

Julia’s heartfelt forgiveness had made David human again, and as an expression of his profound gratitude, he wanted to help heal the deep wounds both in himself and in those who had suffered the loss of loved ones as a result of cold-blooded murder.

This one act of forgiveness had not only caused Peter to become human again, it inspired him to the almost superhuman act of offering to fully bear the anger of those who so needed to express it.

Wow!!! I was stunned and touched to the core to by this moving story. I shared my deep appreciation with Sheila and asked if I could share it with others and with my email list. Concerned that this might cause problems because of the confidentiality required by therapists, she gave me permission to share the story only if no names were mentioned.

So there you have it. Even a hardened psychopath mass murderer can have a change of heart when the power of forgiveness is gifted to him. Just to be clear, I certainly would never expect family members of those murdered to be able to find forgiveness like this, but if nothing else, this story inspired me to ever more fully embrace the incredible power of forgiveness to change lives. Thank you, Julia, and thank you Peter for being a shining example of what’s possible in our world.

With warmest wishes for a transformed world,
Fred Burks for the PEERS empowerment websites

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4 Responses to RED OCTOBER? More on upcoming Harvest Moon: JUPITER/NEPTUNE, and Forgiveness

  1. Laura Bruno says:

    Wow! Cleansing Neptunian tears. This is a powerful post. So very needed in this world and in our hearts at this time.

    I’ve worked for so long with people who’ve had fallout from sexual abuse and violence either to themselves or others, and it is amazing what looking with compassion and forgiveness into the heart of another being can accomplish –for both the viewer and the viewed. These kinds of wounds and abuses so often build upon each other in a never-ending chain until someone finally says, “I can and I will change myself. This pattern stops with me.” I’ve been honored to know some severely abused men and women who had the courage to go through their own healing for the good of the next generation, as well as the greater world. This is a sacred journey, which also seems like a positive expression of Neptune-Jupiter/Pisces-Sag.

    Thank you for sharing.

    • Ann Kreilkamp says:

      Yes, it does seem that taking back projections is key to everything! It’s one of our instructions to ourselves here in Green Acres Village. How better to keep the peace?

  2. Anthony says:

    Hi Ann,

    GREAT post. As Laura wrote, it is quite powerful. I personally doubted whether anyone capable of that kind of violence could ever be rehabilitated, since it seems that most such people have no inner sense of empathy and compassion and may have been born as such (being a genetic condition). But I guess it is possible to suffer such extreme violence when young that one can just shut down all feelings, only to be reawakened later.

    BTW, I had a very powerful dream a couple days ago that follows the theme of your post.

    I dreamed that I was under the control of a despot; one who ruled me tyrannically. I found myself scheming over and over again trying to kill him in order to become free of him, using an ax to do the deed. However, every single time I tried, he countered me with ease. It was as if he knew everything I was going to do before I did it.

    Then it hit me: that despot was my creator. I was a *part* of him, and as such, my mind was also *his*. I couldn’t ever best him, because I WAS him.

    All I could do, was surrender…and accept that I was a part of him – and learn to love and accept and even embrace him, because there was nothing I could do to free myself.

    But in the act of doing that, I BECAME him – and WE were BOTH freed with that act!!

    So yes, forgiveness is the key to escaping our prison!!

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