Ram Dass to Terence McKenna: "I live with this continuous paradox that suffering stinks, and suffering is grace." McKenna: "And the great mass of people don't really make that distinction." -Exopermaculture

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Ram Dass to Terence McKenna: "I live with this continuous paradox that suffering stinks, and suffering is grace." McKenna: "And the great mass of people don't really make that distinction."

By Ann Kreilkamp | February 15, 2012

This noon I went out to lunch again with one of the few people in my life for whom transcendence is as meaningful as permaculture. Not “My Dinner with Andre,” but “My Lunch with Susan.”

Here’s two master trickster/shaman/raconteurs lunching together at a conference in Prague, over 20 years ago now. Ram Dass had yet to start his journey with paralysis.

You might want to start at about minute 17. It takes a while for them to rev up.

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