Devastating.
“We know in our bones, if not in our heads, that this culture will not undergo a voluntary transformation.”
“We have to put our bodies and our lives between the industrial system and life on the planet.”
“We can fantasize all we want about some “Great Turning,” but if the people, including the non-human people, can’t breathe, it doesn’t matter.”
“This is the future that children born today will see, and suffer, in their lifetimes.”
“Any solution to any of these problems has to take the real physical world as a given.”
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Here’s a written interview with Jensen and Rachel Ivey:
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