Believe it or not, I just spent over an hour trying to figure out what times I should use for the start of the Trump/Pluto Summit meeting and the Press Conference afterwards. Had to figure seven hour time change in the mix as well. I’ll spare you the details of the clues I used, and just say that I set the initial meeting chart for 2:20 PM Helsinki (7:20 AM EDT).
I then set the chart for when the Press Conference began, approximately four hours later, after their two hour private meeting and working lunch with aides:
Notice, for this chart, I used a 29°57 Scorpio Ascendant. Had the press conference begun a few minutes later, it would have had a 0°00 Sagittarian Ascendant. Which is correct? I don’t know. All I knew is guards ‘threw out’ a journalist from The Nation who was holding a “malignant” sign, “NUCLEAR WEAPONS TEST BAN TREATY” at approximately 6:08 pm, right before the press conference began.
I’ll stick with the Scorpio Ascendant, and recognize that both Scorpio and Sagittarius are in play here, that we are segueing back and forth between power politics (Scorpio) and expanding our world view (Sagittarius).
Both Putin and Trump obviously want the latter; they are both also involved in power politics, can’t help but be, given those who surround them and the games they have to play to “stay in power.”. However, I’m now convinced that both men play 4D chess. Here in the U.S., where the economy has been thoroughly militarized, it’s obvious that the Military Industrial Complex (the MIC) wants war, always wants war, or at least the threat of war, to sell more weapons, traffick more refugees, destabilize more countries for corporate takeover, and of course, amass more and more fiat money for the 0.001%.
Trump famously said today that it’s the U.S.’s fault that relations with Russia have gotten so bad. Which of course, meant that both the Democrats and Republicans are now calling him out for treason.
Trump and Putin are both highly aware of the fact that, between them, their militaries own most of the nuclear weaponry in the world, and because of that, bear a special responsibility. That journalist with the sign: who knows? Maybe Trump and Putin planted him there! In any case, being kicked out of the conference gave his message more publicity than he could have ever gotten otherwise.
This day is a good one for Trump, with the Sun itself illuminating his Venus/Saturn conjunction in Cancer, where he holds a tremendous sense of responsibility — and, I would suggest, not just for his family, or the U.S. family, but for the world family.
This day is a fortunate one for Putin as well. The 21° Libra Ascendant of the first chart sits exactly on Putin’s idealistic Mercury/Neptune.
Whatever anybody thinks about famously poker-faced Putin (his Ascendant is Scorpio, yes, so he does not show what he feels; he feels too deeply to trust the world’s response to his feelings) as “former KGB,” I’ve held all along that, with four planets in Libra, Putin is a serious diplomat (Sun conjunct Saturn in Libra), naturally attuned to seeking peace and harmony. Furthermore, he negotiates behind the scenes (Libra planets in 12th house) as much as possible.
But the clearest, and richest indication of the meaning of this summit comes for me when we look at the composite chart for the two men:
Note lots of Libra in this chart as well. However, the most significant configuration for me is the Sun/Pluto conjunction at 16°-18° Leo, exactly conjunct 18° Leo Mercury in this first official summit chart.
In other words, when the Plutonian energies of these two powerful men blend, they become an even more powerful force (Sun/Pluto), which, I have a feeling was exactly what they both recognied and intended as they sat and talked (Mercury) for those two hours alone, in person, on this fateful day.
This post is not meant to be anything but a series of impressions gathered from the Trump/Putin meeting today. For an analysis of each of their natal charts, see other posts on this blog.
Astrology of Donald Trump and the U.S.A.
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Astrological Chart of Vladimir Putin
Nor have I “compared” their individual charts here, or elsewhere. Need to do that. But for now, I just leave you with impressions.
The Summit chart with North Node near the MC, opposing South Node, conjunct Mars seems positive, too — directions forward are both aligned, moving away from the IC/South Node past connected with warring Mars.
Look at those packed 9th and 3rd houses for the presser, too. Somehow, that seems relevant, given that the 3rd house is packed with lots of Shadow/intensity/South Node karma, and the 9th house has both Sun, Moon, and Venus and Mercury and the North Node. The house of travel and philosophy finds love, communication and integration, leaving behind the Shadow of the past’s communication issues.
In the Putin/Trump composite chart, isn’t that Eris on the descendant? In other words, they attract those around them with Eris’s spiteful, warring energy, but together Trump and Putin have Venus and Neptune (planets of love) closest to their composite ascendant.
I hadn’t seen Putin’s chart before … not only the Scorpio ascendant, but the MC/Pluto conjunction. No wonder he’s so difficult to read!
Good! Glad you went further than my quick impressions. And yes, Putin’s chart is very telling. Especially, to me, all that 12th house Libra (aside from the Pluto/Mc and Scorpio Ascendant, which hit you in the face!
Yeah, I still don’t fully trust Putin, but the North Node in Aquarius is encouraging, although conjunct the IC. He’s one of those enigma people whose South Node and MC line up, so it’s much more about the balance between the two poles … and yes, all those 12th house planets … it’s encouraging that they’re in Libra. I have always respected him, but he’s a wily one.
I do find it perfect that Uranus sits right by the MC for the Trump/Putin composite. An unusual relationship, indeed, and if they succeed in turning over the globalist apple cart, that would be rather Uranian. I’m cautiously observing what deals really get made and continuing to read the evolving energies … but at least the astrology’s encouraging of potentials.
I see the International Syndicated Racketeering Aggressive Exogenous Landgrabbers will benefit handsomely in all this, as usual. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-russia-summit-mideast/trump-stresses-israels-security-in-talks-with-putin-idUSKBN1K625A
To hell with the US’s own needs, we must always shovel endless wealth into that bottomless maw.
Yes, that is Trump’s Achilles Heel. Period.
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